Here’s a post to chew on as I’m planning my second post of the Combat 2.0 series, this time, focusing on the different types of minions in the game and also setting up a general referential database for all of the minion strategies for readers to refer to.
The main motivation behind this post would be classify all the different types of minions (aka toons, pets) based on their strengths, weakness, abilities and giving them a label because I’m that lazy to type in all of the minions I’m referring to whenever I say ‘Chaser Champions’. It will also briefly explain some strategies of how to take these general group of minions down if encountered in Strongholds.
A minor disclaimer to the post, the information here is actually quite ‘meh’ if you’re an experienced player. If you’ve played at least for a few months and have been involved in raiding in some way or another, you’ll probably find that everything very straightforward.
Requested by Pornpote, and after seeing some comments made on Facebook, the next post in the stronghold trap series is going to be Nettle Grove. You know, the irritating one with the seemingly unavoidable highly damaging poison arrows? Yeah, that…
Here’s what I have written up so far just in case you’re new to these posts:
It’s a (much overdue) request from Aqvi Teig (and also something I’ve been pondering of for a while). Here I present to you the Ashkardian Crypt strategy guide which talks about how to build and how to break them.
Just an overview of the posts, this is part of the trap room series where I’ll write about trap rooms in general and go into each one specifically in weeks to come.
Much apologies for the lack of posts. It has been one hectic week for myself (and might get even more busy soon). Nonetheless, I’ll try my best to keep up with the updates.
Anyway, I was pondering over the trap room posts categories and I realised that having a middle section wouldn’t make much sense. Hence, I’ve decided to do away with it and jump straight to elaborating upon the specific trap rooms.
Actually, I was wondering to myself whether I should even continue with these posts for trap rooms since word has it that stronghold mechanics is going to be revised, with trap rooms taking center stage to how one builds his/her stronghold (source: Syrann).
“You won’t have to worry about changes to the variants since there will not be any variants anymore, there will simply be your trap room and how you choose to build the bonuses yourself.” – Gameloft_Syrann
But since there hasn’t been information on whether the trap room mechanic will be changed (eg. the way it damages players, position of the trap ’emitters’, overall size), then I see no reason not to continue. 🙂
As with Avqi Teig’s request, I’ll start with the Valenthian Guardhouse, which I daresay is one of the most powerful trap rooms in terms of offensive and defensive capabilities at the moment.
Valenthian Guardhouse *Edit: I realised that the first version had incorrect minion positions, updated all the maps accordingly.
The Valenthian Guardhouse features 4 spinning ‘turrets’ (shown above), that emit a light-based aura every few seconds. Minions who come into contact of this light-based aura are literally immune as long as they stand within the post and if the turret doesn’t get destroyed. Raiders who come into contact with the aura get low amounts of damage, just enough to cause your character to ‘jerk back‘ and interrupt your attacking momentum at times.
These posts are situated in a 2 x 2 grid which cover pretty much a good ~30% of the map, leaving the sides and the center area free from the auras.
Evolving this trap room from T3 to 5 will effectively reduce the amount of walk-able area where raiders can travel around within the stronghold by putting up walls in between the turrets. Thus, this ultimately makes the trap room more dangerous as minions can swarm you easily with little room to escape or retaliate.
The evolution can also be recognised by the style of the turrets (picture above), where the shields get larger and their designs get more intricate. Proportionally, the HP of the turrets increases as the trap room tiers up, ranging from being destroyed by a single lightning bolt from a light shield in T3 to a couple of hits from a weapon with decent attack in T5.
Another thing to note would be that the turrets automatically turn back on exactly 10 seconds after they get destroyed, which I say is sufficient time to take down at least one champion if you focus your attacks on him/her.
If you are Raiding one…
Upon entering the stronghold, there will be an aerial pan-through of the entire stronghold, trap room and minions in all. Within these crucial 2 seconds, be sure to take a brief note of how many minions there are, the type of minions and how they are scattered. (Kinda think of it, I should make a blog post to explain how. :))
However, a (nasty) trick to this would be that in certain trap rooms, there happens to be a ‘blind zone’ where the aerial pan-through will miss out, unless your minion happens to be about 10 feet tall (eg. Colossus or Kenashi Warlord size).
Well, it turns out that the Valenthian Stronghold happens to be one of them, and this poses a great issue as 3+ minions can be easily hidden within this spot (see map below). Thus, be cautious if you decide to ‘tank’ all the incoming minions at the start as you might be swarmed faster than you know it.
(Also, if you want to get technical about it, you can do a quick calculation to how many minions you’ll expect to see on the map based on the opponent’s level and the auras underneath the normal and Xinkashi minions… …okay, I will seriously get down to writing that post once I’m done with this one.)
Hence, if you see swarms of black and purple (eg. Voror knights) at the front, do consider to run far far away should you possess anything less than 6k stats. But ultimately, player discretion is highly necessary!
(A) General Strategy
The trick to this map would be to take down one of the turrets as soon as possible and selectively remove major threats (eg. Champions, Voror Knight, Gelid Voror) within the stronghold confines.
Usually I pick the back row ones as players tend to crowd their minions at the front or mid-rows, leaving the back vacant.
What I don’t suggest would be to park yourself at the middle row as you might accidentally knockback minions to either the front or back row turrets. This unintentionally gives them the invincibility aura, which might be disastrous if you’re fighting high HP minions.
Should the turrent be surrounded, you can either knockback/ stun/ fear minions (though they take no damage), dish out an AOE skill to create the same effect, or opt for another less-crowded tower.
TL;DR: Run to a turret (except mid-row) and take it out first, then proceed to remove major threats and other monsters.
(B) For Melee Players
In my opinion, Melee players will have a stronger advantage (than ranged players) in this map, that is if you’ve geared your player well (ie. equipped with weapons/armor that handle swarms of minions converging upon you).
Weapon type I would recommend would be the Glaive as its sweep attack is able to dish out 180 degrees (aka all-around) of AOE damage. This will help you remove not only stronger minions, but also the turret and weaker prey lingering in the vicinity, making your job much easier in the long run.
If your main weapon types are greatsword or dual blades, it’ll be better to focus on taking down targets individually so they don’t run off and possibly get healed. Haste and Shield skills work well to aid you in your tanking process.
Use the staircase to your advantage to bottle-neck melee type minions. Standing at point 2, you can eliminate a good deal of minions on that side of the tower before the opposite side minions catch up to you.
More importantly, be wary of when the turret turns back on. Have a mental gauge of how long you take down minions and also the 10-seconds time frame. If you’re standing next to the staircase, your character should be able to take out the turret again easily in a few swipes.
However, if you’re running low on HP or if the minions are too much for you to handle, remember to retreat when necessary so you don’t cause the whole map to swarm upon you all at once.
(C) For Ranged Players
You’ll be doing a lot of running here, especially if you don’t have much HP and armor on you.
Like the general strategy, you’ll need to clear a turret before attempting to take down minions. On the contrary, take out the weaker ones first
Also, unlike the melee strategy, it’s best to not stand directly at the mouth of the staircase but closer to the wall itself (point 4 below). This will allow you to take out the melee type minions without them retaliating and it’ll take some time before they figure out to use the staircase to get to you.
Ranged players also suffer from ‘false auto-targeting’ syndrome as the turrets are recognised as living targets and will be automatically targeted it’s the closest thing in your vicinity (read forum post here). This makes it very troublesome and potentially fatal if an Ethera is standing slightly further away than the turret from your character’s location, so your character will lock-on to the turret even if he/she is getting a smack down from the Ethera.
If you Own one…
Give yourself a pat on your back as you’ve pulled out a good trap room that would most probably last you till late-game stage. However, do note that you need to configure your trap room well so that those pesky raiders don’t slip through your defenses.
Additionally, there is that nasty blind zone you can exploitstrategically make use of.
(a) General Minion Types
Minions you would want to put in place would be those who are able to render themselves invincible for short periods of time in any form possible, except teleportation (as they can teleport out of the auras and usually get killed easily).
Minions that possess skills that reflect projectiles (eg. Voror Knights, Colossus, Ethera), increase their dodge rate (eg. Harpies), or simply don’t take damage when they are attacking (eg. Duergar Scorchers, Thunderfist Brawlers).
Minion positions can be categorised into 3 main rows in the map.
(b) Front Row
In addition to those mentioned in (a), you can throw in a Tormentor or two or some Lurkers to make your potential raiders run around in fear or get stunned/ knockdown-ed to the ground and left helpless as the other minions swarm upon him/her.
(c) Middle Row
In the center row, minions you would want to consider would be less mobile ranged striker types with high damage and low-moderate HP (aka Artillery types: blighters, lacerators, wolves, tormented etc.). The invincibility aura helps them to stay alive a bit longer and also, their range helps them reach both the front and back rows so they’ll be a source of constant damage until they’re taken down.
Alternatively, I find that Colossus types do well here too as their ‘artillery mode’ projectiles can literally cover the entire map and the invincibility aura covers their vulnerability when their shields are down.
If you have a support type minion, it’s best to put it in the middle instead of the back as they are relatively safe even within the initial visual range of the enemy. They are able to heal/ cast shields and are sufficiently ‘shielded’ by the invincible aura.
Don’t put a Pyre Voror in there though, those things are utterly useless. 😦
(d) Back Row
I do recommend you put something here if you have the extra upkeep points to spare. Either a Voror Knight (anti-projectile tank) or a Fire Ogre (high HP) would do nicely as they restrict the users from having a safe zone for them to take down the turrets.
However, it’s advisable not to situate support minions here as they will not act unless you go close to them. For example, if there’s a Gelid Voror at the back, the high defence water shield will not trigger, meaning that he’s basically useless sitting there.
TL;DR: Generally, load ’em up with minions that can make themselves invincible for short periods of time, the turrets will do the rest.
So yes, that’s about it for the Valenthian Guardhouse.
If you have any other things to share or if you have a better strategy than what is written, do leave a comment and I’ll update my blog accordingly.
Back on track after acclimatizing to an almost 30 degC temperature difference, I decided to start the year with a small but essential topic which was formerly in development: the Trap Room.
A short introduction: This is a trap room series of posts which is currently in development and will be broken down into 3 main parts:
Part 1: General Overview(
Part 2.X: Specific Trap Rooms (written upon request)
General Overview In this post, we’ll be examining the different trap rooms available and categorising them in terms of types.
Brief Descriptors (removed as it is unnecessary) Next, this part will feature a short write-up of each of the trap rooms, general data, suggested minions to fill them, and a brief strategy on how to overcome those pesky traps.
Specific Trap Rooms Lastly, this section will explore each trap room in great detail, fleshing out strategies of building them up and raiding them successfully.
The Trap Room
Be it engaging in raids or building your own stronghold, the trap room is one of the many aspects that will determine the success or failure of a raid. Thus, the purpose of this post and series would be to familiarise players with their acquired trap rooms and how to deal with them if battling against an opponent with one.
But before we begin the post, here is the obligatory Ackbar meme everyone is expecting.
Anyway…In DH5, there are a few categories of Trap Rooms:
(1) The Damage Dealers
(2) The Status Inflictors
(3) The Irritants
(4) The Terrible
Disclaimer: – Do note that what I’m suggesting here is mainly from experience and if I missed out or erred on anything, please don’t be afraid to comment and highlight. – Moreover, the minions recommended in this section are based on my opinion and what I’ve seen in raids and gameplay videos. – *Update: After testing one of my allies’ Ruby Temple trap room, I’m finalising it to be a ‘Terrible’ rating. Despite the crystal in the center of the room giving a ‘regenerative’ aura to minions, the radius of influence is too small and the healing is much too slow. – EDIT (23/2/2016): I’ve decided to upgrade the Ruby Temple trap room to a higher status due to the buff of all of the champion minions. I realised that it works really well for minions (esp. high HP ones) that are able to passively regen and already have high armor (eg. Ethera, Mossback Dragon). This practically makes them unkillable unless you have really high base attack to shave off their constantly regenerating HP.
These trap rooms are most dangerous in the sense that they dish out constant elemental damage to the character within the confines of a small to medium space, resulting in the player having to constantly move around without getting hit by either the trap room itself, or the minions.
While constant evasion is possible, a sliver lining would be that these trap rooms have certain ‘safe’ spots. These are where for the player to stand on where he/she will be able to not get hit by these environment causing effects entirely.
These trap rooms are great and near fatal against in lower ranks (Veteran and below) and poorly geared raiders. On the contrary, these pose less of a threat in higher ones (Master and above) as opponents tend to have not only higher global armor but raw armor stat but are also more familiar with the mechanics of these trap rooms.
Moreover, a simple way to counter these trap rooms is to have a ‘shield’ skill on constantly. This will negate incoming damage so you’ll be able to concentrate on the minions instead.
If you happen to hold one these trap rooms yourself, fill it with minions that need your opponent to run around constantly, even if he/she were a ranged user, in order to increase the chances that they’re being exposed to environmental damage. Minions with the ability to teleport, fly, or deflect projectiles fit the bill.
Alternatively, you can go for a full stronghold of melee striker types. This will force the raider to have to constantly run around to avoid getting hit and swarmed massively. Tormentors go well too due to their ability to fear your character all over the place.
Such minions include, but are not limited to, Colossus-types, Scepters, Voror-types, Conjurers, Dragon-types, Tormentors, Thunderfist Brawlers, Harpy Vultures etc.
In this category, the trap rooms are small but are surprisingly very deadly. Although the trap room itself doesn’t deal a lot of damage, they come with an additional status effect that benefits the minions or disadvantages the raider.
Having a moderate space gives it an advantage of forcing the opponent into a tight corner and with the status effects, this will end the match very quickly for unskilled opponents.
Good for you if you managed to pull out one as these, in my opinion, are the better trap rooms in the game.
Nonetheless, the downside is that the minions in this category of strongholds matter a lot as putting the wrong minion will render the status effect as little more than a hindrance to the raider. Thus, these rooms are not recommended if you don’t have good minions in your arsenal.
Minions which you’re looking for would be those of high defence, high HP and possess the ability to remain invulnerable (eg. immunity shields, deflect projectiles etc.). Support types work perfectly here as well because the map is sufficiently small for them to work their magic on almost every minion that is in range.
(Only for the Valenthian Guardhouse, it also goes well with hard-hitting Ranged Striker types, but I’ll leave that to another post.)
Such minions include, but are not limited to, most defender types (Orges, Vorors, Dark Sentinels, Lurkers, Voror Knights etc.), Gatekeeper, Ethera, support types (esp. Gelid Voror).
Examples: Scalding Forge (Burning); Xinkashi Spring (Freeze); Valenthian Stockade (Knockdown)
Although these are larger in size (I daresay, some of the largest in this game), these trap rooms have the capability to cover the entire map with their status attack. Also dishes out weak to moderate damage, but unfortunately, these trap rooms are significantly less dangerous.
I’m not going to lie, but these trap rooms pose little threat to incoming players even at maxed out T5 and can be overcome easily with a single dodge roll away from the environment damage. Due to their huge confines, it’s very easy to find a safe zone to refresh your skills and ‘kite’ individual minions there to the slaughter.
Hence, to take advantage of these rooms, minions recommended would be those with high defence and/or HP and usually keep to one spot. Thus, this requires raiders to keep attacking until they forget to move much. Additionally, go for minions with high stun/ knockdown rates so raiders get ‘stuck’ in one spot and unable to roll away in time.
Such minions include, but are not limited to, Colossus-types, Thunderfist Brawler, Dark Sentinels, Lurkers, Voror Knight, Baloth etc.
Examples: Mine Layer, No Trap Room
These trap rooms are terrible. Not only do they not deal direct damage to the opponent, they’re quite large as well. Personally, I find no purpose in the game besides acting as superfusion fodder or for those slight minion bonuses it comes attached with.
Basically, if you see a trap room listed above, you basically have the upper edge. Just hope that there’s not too many voror knights and etheras sitting inside them.
I’m not going to even start recommending a strategy as there’s way too many safe zones and you can literally run to the other corner of the map and not get targeted by certain minions altogether. Raiders can even outrun the faster melee striker types, making these maps a haven for easy hostile takeovers.
Well…you can always go for the unbreakable 2+ x Gelid Vorors and the rest being T5 Voror Knights combination. That goes well with any stronghold.
But if you’re on the receiving end of that, the key principle behind a successful raid would be to know your minions and the trap room they appear in. With enough experience, it’ll certainly be a breeze. 😀